Monday, 27 June 2011

Lord Northampton hits the headlines

From the Sunday Telegraph


The Marquess of Northampton, one of Britain's weathiest and most colourful aristocrats, has been accused of obtaining illicit tape recordings of telephone calls made by his wife in a divorce battle over his £120 million fortune.

Mystic Marquess in the dock over divorce tapes: Lord Northampton with Lady Pamela
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Lord Northampton with Lady Pamela Photo: DOMINIC O'NEILL
Mystic Marquess in the dock over divorce tapes:  James Haworth , left, and his partner Suazanne Shipwright
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James Haworth , left, and his partner Suazanne Shipwright Photo: WARREN ALLOTT / FIONA HANSON
Mystic Marquess in the dock over divorce tapes: The family home, Compton Wynyates
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The family home, Compton Wynyates Photo: ALAMY

He is one of Britain's wealthiest and most colourful aristocrats.

Dubbed the Mystic Marquess for his fascination with Freemasonry and ancient mysticism, The 7th Marquess of Northampton has been married five times, endured four divorces and is now embarking on his fifth.

He has two vast and hugely expensive stately homes to maintain, and possesses a hoard of Roman treasure, worth £100 million but so contentious it cannot be sold.

But the latest controversy to dog the peer may be the most damaging and costly yet.

For Lord Northampton stands accused of obtaining illicitly taped telephone calls between his estranged wife Lady Pamela and her 86-year-old father in a divorce battle over his estimated £120 million fortune.

In a bizarre twist, it is his father-in-law's partner, a hairdresser and beautician from Middlesex, who is accused of making the secret tapes and passing them on to the marquess.

A close friend of Lord Northampton has told The Sunday Telegraph that the 65-year-old peer is "extremely upset" by the collapse of his fifth marriage.

After four failed marriages, he had thought that Lady Pamela was "the love of his life", said the friend.

The phone taping case is deeply embarrassing for Lord Northampton, who now faces having to explain his actions before a High Court judge.

Lady Pamela, his fifth wife whom he married in 1990, stands to receive as much as £20 million in compensation for their 20-year marriage.

The contents of the taped conversations are subject to a series of strict court orders and cannot - for now at least - be made public by any of the parties involved in the complex divorce and breach of confidence cases.

But The Sunday Telegraph has learnt that Suzanne Shipwright, who has lived with Lady Pamela's father James Haworth for more than 20 years, made the recordings last autumn and then passed them to Lord Northampton, apparently indignant at their contents.

Lord Northampton, born Spencer Compton and known as 'Spenny' to friends, issued divorce proceedings on 25 November last year after hearing the recordings.

In a counter law suit Lady Pamela and Mr Haworth are suing both Miss Shipwright and Lord Northampton for damages, claiming breach of confidence.

Strangely, despite being on opposing sides, Mr Haworth and Miss Shipwright apparently remain a couple, sharing a bungalow in Surrey with Mr Haworth.

A friend of Lord Northampton told The Sunday Telegraph: "Spenny is extremely upset that what he thought was a happy marriage has come to a sudden end. He had thought that Pamela was the love of his life."

The friend stressed that unlike his previous marriages, Lord Northampton had no plans to find a sixth wife on the rebound.

"Spenny has been faithful to his wife throughout their marriage and there is no one else in his life," insisted the friend.

The friend added: "He realised there was no future to the marriage when he was made aware of the nature of the conversations between Pamela and his father in law during last autumn.

"With real sadness Spenny felt he had no other choice than to start divorce proceedings last November. Spenny has told me the tapes came to him as a bolt from the blue and he certainly didn't commission their recording."

As recently as 2006, he publicly praised Lady Pamela in front of a gathering of freemasons in New York for the "advice, love and support I receive from Pamela, who shares with me a passion for the Craft as well as some of the highs and all of the lows associated with my role as Pro Grand Master of English Freemasonry".

Miss Shipwright, 62, effectively Lady Pamela's common law stepmother although only three years older, continues to live with Mr Haworth. Mr Haworth is hard of hearing and routinely makes his telephone calls with the speaker phone at full volume in order to conduct conversations. That made the calls easy to record.

Miss Shipwright, who ran Suzanne's Hair and Beauty salon in Staines in Middlesex, offering 'laser skin resurfacing' among other treatments, refused to comment last week.

Mr Haworth, a retired land agent, said: "It will all play out in court. I don't want it to play out on my doorstep."

His lawyers have accused Lord Northampton of "fishing for information" useful in the divorce case while Lady Pamela's divorce barrister, the eminent QC Bruce Blair, told a judge that she was "horrified by the disgracefully obtained information".

Lady Pamela, 59, who like the majority of Lord Northampton's wives is blonde and glamorous, is travelling abroad, while awaiting a divorce payout that will keep her in the luxury to which she has become accustomed over the past two decades.

He has employed the Queen's solicitors Farrer & Co in an attempt to preserve his estate intact for future generations. Among his assets are two stately homes - Compton Wynyates, the Compton family home since 1204, and Castle Ashby, which he hires out for weddings and other occasions.

The former England rugby captain Will Carling married there before fatefully embarking on an affair with Princess Diana. His country estates in Warwickshire, Northampton and Surrey cover 18,500 acres.

Lord Northampton also has at least one London home on an exclusive square as well as properties in Islington in north London, which includes a conference centre in a mansion which has been in the Compton family since 1599.

He is also director of the Canonbury Masonic Research Centre, of which Lady Pamela is also a director. The centre "supports the study of freemasonry and mystical and esoteric traditions".

Other family assets - including paintings and medieval manuscripts - have been sold off over the last two decades with the money said to have been ploughed back into the upkeep of the stately homes. In 1985, two years after his divorce to wife number three Rosie, he sold The Adoration of the Magi by the 15th century artist Andreas Mantegna for a then world record £8.1 million despite howls of protest on its export to the Getty Museum in California.

Lady Pamela's divorce lawyers are likely to argue that the Sevso Treasure should also be thrown into calculations of the marquess' wealth.

The treasure trove, consisting of 14 large decorated silver vessels and plates, is considered one of the greatest collections of Roman antiquities.

It is said to be locked away in a bank vault because it cannot be sold due to disputes over its provenance.

Lord Northampton bought it in the 1980s and became embroiled in a series of ownership battles and even a police investigation.

Despite being cleared of all wrongdoing and finally given full possession in 1993, Lord Northampton has been unable to find a buyer willing to take the risk of purchasing it because of fears of future legal cases.

Lord Northampton and the future Lady Pamela - she was previously married to a wealthy American financier - met through mutual friends. The couple were married in 1990. Guests at the time would have been excused wondering if it would last.

Between 1967 and 1988, the marquess cemented his reputation as a playboy by marrying four times in relatively quick succession.

His fourth wife Fritzi, a German model, was known as Lady Fourthampton while the marriage to wife number two - his former secretary Annette Smallwood - lasted about 20 months.

One report in 1976 suggested Lady Annette had taken off her shirt in a smart restaurant in London and crawled under tables to "liven things up".

His first marriage in 1967 was to Henriette Bentinck, the daughter of the former Dutch ambassador to London.

The marquess, then working for Barings bank, was just 21 and Miss Bentinck only 18.

"I was going to be an actress," she said at the time, "But he won't let me - modelling and the theatre are both out, he says. However I love him better than acting so it's all right."

The couple had two children - including an heir born in January 1973. By October 1973 the couple were divorced and by the following year he had married Annette Smallwood, who at the time was secretary of KIDS, a charity for deprived children which he had set up.

By 1977, that marriage was over and Rosie Dawson-Damer was named in the divorce petition as the other woman. Marriage number three lasted six years until 1983 when Lady Rosie moved out of Compton Wynyates.

It was claimed at the time the breakdown in relations was not helped by Lady Rosy's keenness for hunting which was not thought to be compatible with Lord Northampton's decision to abandon shooting and become a vegetarian.

"I have an affinity for Buddhism although I am not becoming a Buddhist," he said in an interview at the time. Despite sugegstions on the internet that he is Britain's wealthiest Buddhist, Lord Northampton remains an Anglican and is no longer a vegetarian.

In 1985, he married Fritzi Erhardt, the former wife of Viscount Cowdray's heir. They divorced in 1988. At the time his fourth marriage collapsed, he declared: "I have always been told I would have at least five wives." The prophecy was to come true when he married Lady Pamela at a registry office in Stratford-upon-Avon on Dec 10, 1990.

Lawyers for Lady Pamela declined to comment on the case as did legal representatives for Lord Northampton at Farrer & Co.

Friday, 17 June 2011

Cranmer and Freemasonry

The influential blogger Cranmer has posted about the relationship between the Anglican church and Freemasonry after he was asked to do so by a down-under brother.

I re-post His Grace's offering in full. He is asking for comments so please visit his site ...

His Grace received a flurry of requests a few weeks ago to share his thoughts on the relationship between Freemasonry and the Church of England. They came in the context of the decision to appoint the the Rev Jonathan Baker, Principal of Pusey House in Oxford, to the (‘flying’) Bishopric of Ebbsfleet. The appointment was made despite the Archbishop of Canterbury knowing he was ‘an active and senior mason’.

Dr Williams has previously made it known that he believes Freemasonry to be 'incompatible’ with Christianity, doubtless owing to its reverence for some unspecified ‘supreme being’ and the need for its adherents to participate in certain cultic rituals and swear secret oaths. He has consequently refused to promote masons to senior positions with the Church, though lay involvement appears to have presented no problems. This is curious: surely if Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity, masons should not be in the Church at all, let alone arranging the flowers.

Curiously, just after the appointment, Fr Baker defended his continuing membership of the Masons to The Sunday Telegraph, insisting that it was ‘compatible with his new role as a bishop’. Yet just a week later, he had changed his mind and recanted renounced announced that he was leaving the Masons ‘to concentrate on being a bishop’. He said: “I have concluded that, because of the particular charism of episcopal ministry and the burden that ministry bears, I am resigning my membership of Freemasonry.” This, again, is curious: if there was nothing incompatible between Freemasonry and being the principal of and Anglo-Catholic college, why should it be incompatible with the office of bishop? Is not membership of a male-only cult rather contiguous with being a ‘flying’ bishop to oversee clergy opposed to women priests? The Archbishop of Canterbury was evidently content for the appointment to proceed while Fr Baker was still a mason, so his anxieties have manifestly eased over the years.

His Grace really was not going to delve into this, but he has received a letter from an Anglican (‘down under’) who also happens to be a third degree or Master Mason in the Blue Lodge. Hitherto, the joint affiliation has presented him with no problems. But the Diocesan Synod in Sydney has recently decreed that all Anglican Freemasons must withdraw from their Lodges or sever all connections with the Anglican Church. He wrote:

To His Grace Rt Rev Thomas Cranmer
Archbishop of Canterbury

Your Grace,

I trust that the pain of the fires did not trouble you for too long. I am reading your thoughts again, albeit from the grave.

I therefore wish to hear your views and advice on a matter of some importance to me, and of relevance to the current Church of England and worldwide Anglican Communion. Last Sunday I was discussing with a church warden a proposed development to land adjacent to my parish church. A new church building is to be built between the old one (built in 1840) and the church hall (1910). Adjacent to the hall is the Masonic temple (1926). All of the buildings were commissioned by the founding family of this particular town. As a 5th generation freemason, I light-heartedly suggested that the Lodge could participate in the foundation stone-laying ceremony. I was told in very clear terms that this Diocese proscribes Freemasonry, holding it to be "irreconcilably incompatible with Christianity" and the Church is to have nothing whatsoever to do with Masonic lodges, nor to permit any Masonic activity on Church land, while Anglican schools in the Diocese are to sever all links with Masonic organisations of any kind (charitable or not). This was the result of a resolution in 2003, the text of which appears below (I know it's old news now, but it has a renewed relevance in relation to the Bishop of Ebbsfleet):

RESOLUTION 25/03 – FREEMASONRY
Synod, noting the 1988 Report to Synod entitled “Freemasonry Examined” and subsequent resolution 9/88 of that Synod -
(a) affirms that Freemasonry and Christianity are fundamentally and irreconcilably incompatible, and
(b) affirms that Freemasonry teaches and upholds a system of false religious and spiritual beliefs that are contrary to biblical Christianity.
Synod encourages ministers and other Christians to take every opportunity to reach out in love to all Freemasons and share with them the gospel of Christ.
Synod encourages all Christians who are members of a Masonic Lodge to demonstrate their commitment to Jesus Christ as the divine Son of God and as the sole way of salvation, by withdrawing from the Lodge.
Synod encourages ministers not to participate in, nor allow in their church buildings, any religious services or activities that uphold, condone, promote or encourage adherence to Freemasonry.
Synod requests the Councils of all Anglican Schools to consider any association that their school may have with any Masonic Lodge, and to withdraw from any such association. Synod further requests that Anglican Schools neither participate in any activity that may uphold, condone, promote or encourage adherence to Freemasonry, nor give publicity to any such activity, nor allow the name of the school to be used in association with any such activity.
Synod requests Standing Committee to undertake the preparation, production and distribution of a clear and unambiguous booklet suitable for wide distribution, examining the key rites, teachings and beliefs of Freemasonry and explaining why they differ from Biblical Christianity, and explaining why it is wrong for a Christian to belong to the Lodge.
(The Rev Bill Winthrop - 20.10.03)
Below is the media statement in response the next day from the United Grand Lodge of New South Wales/Australian Capital Territory:

MEDIA STATEMENT by M.W. Bro. Tony Lauer, Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of New South Wales and Australian Capital Territory, Australia

“SYDNEY SYNOD RESOLUTION THAT ANGLICAL FREEMASONS WITHDRAW FROM THE FREEMASONS – OR – FROM ATTENDING THE ANGLICAN CHURCH IS MISCONCEIVED, DISCRIMINATORY AND A BETRAYAL OF ITS FOLLOWERS,” says Tony Lauer, Grand Master of NSW & ACT Freemasons.

A resolution proposed by the Reverend William Winthrop of Lithgow that all Anglican Freemasons withdraw from their Lodges OR sever all connections with the Anglican Church, was passed last night by the Diocesan Synod in Sydney.
“ The resolution is pure discrimination, smacks of bigotry and religious fundamentalism and is a betrayal of all Freemasons who practice the Anglican Faith,” says Tony Lauer, Grand Master of the NSW & ACT Freemasons, “especially since a great percentage of Freemasons throughout the State are Anglicans.”
“Furthermore, this a one man vendetta on the part of Reverend Winthrop, over a local issue and very petty situation – that received widespread publicity - which occurred in Lithgow last year.”
“This resulted in all local Freemasons being publicly not welcomed at the local Anglican Church,” says Mr Lauer.
“The stance taken is based on total ignorance and is a misrepresentation of what Freemasonry is all about,” says Mr Lauer.
“First and foremost, Freemasonry is tolerant and respectful of all religions and admits all men of good character who have a commitment to self improvement and to serve their community. Our one requirement is that they have a belief in God as the ‘supreme being’. We do not question their other beliefs,” continued Mr Lauer.
“We accept members of all faiths as Freemasons, as long as they have this belief, hence many of our Lodge members work within their communities with men of many faiths including Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Catholics and Muslims,” added Mr Lauer.
“I would like to point out to Reverend Winthrop and the Synod, that many high-ranking ministers of religion, including Anglicans, have been – and are – Freemasons,” said Mr Lauer.
“I ask Mr Winthrop and the Diocese, whether these men are now to be considered not to be Christians because they are Freemasons,” said Mr Lauer.
“Freemasonry teaches tolerance, equality, compassion and brotherly love. If Reverend Winthrop’s and the Synod’s interpretation of ‘Christianity’ disagrees with these teachings, does this mean that the Sydney Anglican Church does not believe in the basic principles of compassion, brotherly love and above all – truth?” challenges Mr Lauer.
“Over the last 200 years Freemasons have played a significant role in shaping the fabric of Australian Society, and have been prominent in all areas of Australia’s proud history including politics, commerce, sports, the armed services.”
“In fact since Lachlan Macquarie became Governor of New South Wales in 1809, each State has had one or more Governors who were Freemasons.”
“Three of Australia’s Governors General have been Freemasons as have 10 out of 25 Prime Ministers, since Federation.”
“Are these distinguished Australians now to be branded as ‘non-Christians’ by the Anglican Church,” asked Mr Lauer.
Mr Lauer added that “ I would also like to point out that Freemasons in this state alone each year distribute more that $1,000.000 to non-Masonic worthy causes, community initiatives and charitable organisations – irrespective of their connection to any Church Group.”
“ The world, as we have come to know it today, is undergoing very alarming, uncertain and chaotic times, fuelled mainly by religious fundamentalism.”
“Surely, is this civilised society the church’s role is to teach, love, compassion, unity and tolerance of one’s fellow man, and not to promote division, hatred, alienation and downright bigotry,” concluded Mr Lauer.
The issue apparently came about as one of vengeance, as a Masonic funereal rite had been performed in a particular parish, without the rector's knowledge. Quite a coincidence that the rector concerned was the mover of the resolution at synod.

(The 1988 discussion paper referred to in the resolution is attached to this email).

On hearing this, I was quite shocked. Of course, I knew that Rome had long-since proscribed Freemasonry, especially the continental variety that was radically anti-clerical. In the case of the Roman Catholics, for a period of about 20 years during the reign of the last Bishop of Rome, there was a perception of ambiguity, while local priests were left to decide what to do about Freemasonry until the Head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, aka the inquisition, a certain Joseph Ratzinger, clarified that there was no parish discretion allowed and that Masons were held to be in a state of grave sin, unable to take communion until resignation from the Lodge. I digress, because I was used to hearing this from the Vatican, along with innumerable conspiracy theories about links to Templars, world domination etc. But I had always believed that, firstly, English and Scottish Freemasonry did not have any such revolutionary or anti-clerical character as it has been portrayed in Europe, and secondly, that with membership including royalty, senior clergy, and all manner of men of good character from Sir Winston Churchill to Sir Isaac Newton to Sir Christopher Wren, to the poorest honest men in our community, that Freemasonry had been and continues to be one of the shining lights in our civilisation.

Far from leading to any deviation from Christian thought, Freemasonry teaches members to pursue their religion with utmost vigour, exhorting men to read their Bibles and to lead their lives by the book of their respective religion.

(It is acknowledged that Freemasonry, along with the West in general, is certainly having to deal with the arrival of adherents to a certain religious background that Masons of old would never have imagined would join their ranks; one that at its heart is antithetical to the foundations of our system of morality, but that the fraternity of Freemasonry may have a moderating, perhaps one day reforming, influence on adherents to that particular faith system, in so much as we judge a man on his merits and qualities as a man, not his religious background - this is a personal view).

Indeed, the founding family of the church mentioned at the beginning of this email were all Freemasons! It goes without saying that Freemasons have a long history when it comes to building churches.

I then telephoned the Synod office today and asked if the encouragement ‘to demonstrate [my] commitment to Jesus Christ as the divine Son of God as the sole way of salvation, by withdrawing from the Lodge’ constituted a threat of excommunication if I did not resign. I was informed that the Anglican Church does not excommunicate people in the way that Rome does. I was not set at ease. Rather, I feel I cannot return to my church without feeling unwelcome.

I then wrote to my parish priest, asking the same question. Since there is a divergence of modes of worship in the Diocese, from Evangelical to Anglo-Catholic (complete with devotions to Mary of Walsingham), whether there was any parish discretion in any matter relating to Freemasons. Perhaps the reason for the lack of response is that he is seeking guidance from the Bishop's office.

Since becoming a Freemason on the death of my last grandfather, I have read far more Scripture and religious literature than I did before I joined. Among such literature was a collection of articles of religion, based on Your Grace's writings, most relevant among which relates to the ‘Sufficiency of the Holy Scriptures for Salvation’. Indeed, while one may use other forms of devotion as aids to worship, they are not required. Likewise, Freemasonry has augmented the depth of understanding which I have derived from Holy Writ (as we refer to it). But it is still a secular organisation. It preaches no salvific doctrine (nor any other religious doctrine in fact). It does not preach salvation by works - the Diocese's chief criticism. If it vanished tomorrow, it would not have the slightest impact on the nature of grace and salvation. But it is not harmful to one's understanding of grace. It is not idolatry. It is no more anti-Christian than a Remembrance Day service or any other civic service. Ironically, these days in this particular Diocese, the only time one may hear the beautiful hymns of our childhood (such as ‘Abide with Me’, or ‘I vow to thee, my country’, is at such a civic-religious service. We had ‘I vow to thee..’ and ‘Jerusalem’ at our own wedding, but only because we requested it). Any other day it would be insipid, overhead projector rubbish from the 1970s.

So I would hear Your Grace's opinion on the proper relationship between Freemasonry and the Church, acknowledging that the craft was still mainly an operative stonemasons' guild during your reign as Archbishop of Canterbury, although one with a sacred mission, building churches and cathedrals of stone, whereas now they build cathedrals of men's mind and character. Of course, the relevance relates to your successor the Rt Rev Rowan Williams' views on Freemasons, during his tenure as Bishop of Monmouth and subsequent comments following the resignation from the Lodge of the new Bishop of Ebbsfleet.

If I do not receive satisfactory responses from my local church, ongoing attendance will be most difficult, if I am not to perjure myself with regards to one organisation or the other. I shall have to venture outside my Diocese to worship, the nearest town in the neighbouring diocese being ninety minutes' travel.

I thank you for your consideration of this matter.

Your humble communicant,

(name withheld to preserve anonymity)

His Grace was touched that this gentleman was eager to hear His Grace’s opinion on the proper relationship between Freemasonry and the Church. His Grace responded that he would be delighted to give it, but would put the matter to his loyal communicants, among whom is often found manifest wisdom, intelligence and discernment. Over to you.

Templars demand apology

From the Daily Telegraph...

The heirs to the Knights Templar have demanded an apology from the Vatican for the murder of their last leader, who was burned at the stake in the 14th century.

The last Grand Master of the warrior monks who fought in the Crusades, Jacques de Molay, was executed in Paris in 1314 on charges of heresy, black magic and idolatry.

His death was part of a concerted campaign to suppress the chivalric order by King Philip IV of France, who had grown suspicious of the Templars' power and envious of their wealth.

Although it was the French king who ordered de Molay to be put to death, the Templars have for centuries accused the Church in Rome of complicity.

Pope Clement V initiated an inquest into the order which led to many knights being subjected to heresy trials, before disbanding altogether.

The movement was reborn in the early 19th century as a charitable organisation and has branches around the world.

"There was an enormous degree of complicity because Clement V, who was Pope at the time, was under huge pressure from King Philip," Walter Grandis, 64, the current head or Grand Prior of the Knights Templar in Italy, told The Daily Telegraph.

"This was an appalling crime and a miscarriage of justice that the Church allowed to happen.

"We're asking for de Molay to be pardoned so that we can finally turn a page in history and work towards reconciliation," said Mr Grandis, who recently wrote a book on the order, called The Templars: The Real Secret.

A document found in the Vatican Secret Archives a decade ago revealed that Clement V absolved some Templars of heresy, but the Church has never apologised for the order's persecution.

The request for a pardon and apology was submitted to Dr Guzman Carriquiry Lecour, the under-secretary for the Pontifical Council for the Laity, a few weeks ago but will be discussed by modern-day Templars at a special conference in Turin on Friday and Saturday.

A Vatican spokesman said the request was being considered.

The inheritors of the Templar chivalric code have also launched a bid to rehabilitate de Molay, nearly 700 years after his death.

They achieved a small victory in March when a town in north-eastern Italy agreed to rename one of its squares in his honour.

A grand ceremony was held in Lusevera, a town in the Friuli-Venezia Giulia region on the border with Slovenia, during which the new name - Piazzale Jacques de Molay - was unveiled. A sign commemorates the knight as "a martyr to free thought".

"It is the first time in Europe that de Molay has been recognised in this way," said Mr Grandis.

Thursday, 9 June 2011

Watch for sale




This rather splendid watch is going under the hammer at Christie's in New York on June 15.

The catalogue description reads:

HIRAM WATCH CO. AN UNUSUAL 14K GOLD AND ENAMEL TRIANGULAR MASONIC KEYLESS LEVER WATCH
SIGNED HIRAM WATCH CO., MOVEMENT SIGNED ELGIN, NO. 25513317, CIRCA 1922
Nickel-finished lever movement signed Elgin and numbered, blue enamel dial with gilt Masonic symbols as the hour markers, the triangular case entirely decorated with Masonic imagery in relief, blue enamel G to the top, triangular-shaped bow, case and dial signed Hiram Watch Co.

It is extimated to sell for £1,000.

Thursday, 2 June 2011

You're kidding




This cheeky cartoon is being sold by Trevor Vennett-Smith's saleroom in Nottinghamshire.

It is from the "Are You A Mason", National Series and is expected to fetch up to £25.